It is fraud on their part, but we are responsible when we have been informed about the fraud and continue to play their game.
Terry has been told that he is not a “US citizen” and he has been told why and he has been told what his remedy is, but he refuses to “expatriate” from his corporate chattel status, so — there it is. Just as the Masters of Deceit have claimed, “They will cling to their own chains.” And as long as we cling to our chains, nobody else can free us.
Now do you understand what I am saying? It’s not “just” that they have and are committing fraud against us, it’s that we are failing to recognize and object to it and take effective action to release ourselves from their “System”.
At any time, prior to, during, or after any court action, Terry can raise the issue of jurisdiction— or lack thereof. He can (1) demand proof that he ever volunteered to subject himself to the United States (Corporation) and object and tell the court that he didn’t ever knowingly, willingly, and under conditions of full disclosure do any such thing, and neither did his parents. He can (2) formally expatriate by signing an Act of State, getting an Apostille, and sending a copy to the Secretary of State. He can (3) invoke the Universal Right of Self-Declaration guaranteed by the United Nations and its members and declare himself a living, free-born inhabitant of the geographically defined states of the unted States of America, owed every natural and unalienable right of his birthright status, and owed his Common Law right preserved at UCC 1-308 not to be obligated to perform any contract tainted by fraud, entered into by Third Parties merely claiming to “represent” him, or deemed to exist because of his receipt of any compelled benefit or fruit of monopoly inducement.
He has options. He has recourse. But he is stubbornly sitting there, playing their game—- and you are feeling sorry for him and whipping up sympathy and support for him while he continues on this bone-headed way.
What’s worse— the one who creates and perpetuates a fraud for their own advantage, or the victim of such fraud who fails to object to it even after they’ve been fully informed?
Is it not evidence of a “willing contract” when people like Terry submit themselves to the court’s jurisdiction and trial by a jury of foreigners?
Are you beginning to get the problem here?
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Arnie <email@example.com> wrote:
Of course everything you state is true. And we agree
“Is it deceptive? Yes. Is it meant to be deceptive? You betcha. Is it fraud? Yes, in my opinion, definitely.”
So first…may I ask you why you qualify the use of the term “fraud,” you indicate you most definitely recognize as being a “fraud,” with “in my opinion?”
The truth; it takes so few words to express…
On Oct 11, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Anna von Reitz <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
strong>ARNIE— we are talking about SEPARATE NATIONS!!! America is NOT the United States!
LOOK at the WORDS on the PAGE!!!
Can’t you see the difference between “united States of America” and “United States of America” ????
Is it deceptive? Yes. Is it meant to be deceptive? You betcha. Is it fraud? Yes, in my opinion, definitely.
But is it “illegal”? No. Everything that Hitler did was “legal”, too.
Is Terry obligated to be a “United States citizen”???? NO!!! Can he declare himself to be a free man and an American, not subject to or obligated to the United States? YES!
And since he has that option, and he has been informed that he can expatriate himself from the United States at any time, he has nobody but himself to blame for staying where he is.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Arnie <email@example.com> wrote:
Thank you for your comments.
You and I had a conversation where you agreed under the Lieber code the military is responsible to protect the civilians. Lincoln imposed it upon the people.
What is…IS. But the point I understood from you is they have the obligation to protect the citizens.
Anna, Regardless of your excellent logic…As I see it, the fraud they are committing upon the people through deception and deceit is illegal and unlawful.
Under natural law, no one should have to play such games imposed upon them regardless of who or w2hat says so. It is plain wrong. It is plain wrong and that is what matters to me!
While you understand the finer points, to me, their conduct is not representative of the proper conduct of ethical and moral people. This is what we are led to believe they are when these officials are running for office.
After the elections they remain the same people, regardless of fictitious mechanisms. They too are flesh and blood and they too are responsible and accountable for their conduct and behavior regardless of the language they use to deceive. Corporations may provide some means of legal protection but the moral abuse stands above any fictitious notions.
Fraud is still fraud. Acts of fraud are in no means included in business as usual of honest and ethical businessmen. I see no resemblance to honest and ethical business men when the conspiracy to over-throw the government of the people. I see no honor or an resemblance to ethical and moral behavior to people who conspire to implement secret and hidden practices like the fraud involved in the birth certificate and corporatizing live people.
So as a result I fail to appreciate the view from your perspective. Those who died for the sake of freedom and liberty believed they were doing the right thing for the right reasons. The same goes for Terry. What has happened to Terry is as a result of trickery, bad faith, bad behavior, criminal abuse and the list goes on.
To me Anna…..Intent is everything!
On Oct 10, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Anna von Reitz <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
WRONG! Haven’t you heard a thing I have said about this, Arnie?
WE are NOT at war and never have been under “martial law” or anything like it since 1865. We, the inhabitants of the Domestic States, are at PEACE.
THEY— the “United States of America (Minor)” are at endless war.
Not a single American has fought in any war since 1865. ALL those who have fought and died in every altercation since then have been ‘US citizens”—- “Federal citizens”—ONLY.
The reason Terry is in jail (and won’t get out) is that he is considered a “US citizen” by his own admission and choice.
That obligates him to THEIR law and THEIR rules and deprives him of all his natural and unalienable rights, including the right to habeas corpus.
I wish you guys would get this straight in your minds. It is black and white, our rules or their rules, on the land or on the sea. You choose which.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Arnie <email@example.com> wrote:
As you know I have no legal expertise. However, just a casual observation would seem to indicate some possible considerations if not already under way. Ignore if redundant.
Writ of habeas corpus would be in order if one is not already in progress.
Has anyone written a detailed affidavit of truth regarding the hearing? Several would be better. Hundreds would be even better.
Anyone called for a town hall meeting to bring the people together and update them to these acts of tyranny?
The people filing charges with local officials puts them in the chain of responsibility to act.
In California all public officials are accountable for the public safety.
Any chance any of the people of the local area would file criminal charges against those involved?
Under Misprision of felony citizens who are aware of criminal acts are obligated to report crimes to civil authority, a judge or the military.
Being under the Lieber code since about 1865 means as a nation, we are under martial law. One of the primary responsibilities of the military under martial law is to protect the public. The provost marshal would be responsible to ensure justice is maintained.
Keeping American Patriots informed of the “truth” has become a full-time job!
On Oct 10, 2014, at 4:23 AM, Rodger Dowdell <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: “Jason Hoyt” <email@example.com>
Date: October 10, 2014 at 12:51:22 AM EDT
Subject: Jason Hoyt has shared: #JusticeForTerry – Man Appears in Court, Gets Arrested for Failure to Appear
Dixie County, FL – Terry Trussell, who was arrested on September 2nd, 2014 for “simulating a legal process”, appeared in court today for his arraignment but was arrested for “Failure to Appear.” Yes, this sounds strange. This sounds like injustice. This sounds like government tyranny. Well, if it sounds like a duck.