By James H. Fetzer (with Wolfgang Halbig)
BREAKING NEWS! New Revelations expose the apparently corrupt motives of Newtown authorities and participants in the staged events at Sandy Hook, including free homes and a cut of $27 million (USD) in donations from a sympathetic but gullible public played for saps through the cynical manipulation of their subconscious fears.
New research on Sandy Hook reveals powerful financial incentives that appear to implicate the highest officials of Newtown in a conspiracy to fabricate the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting, which extends to survivors of the “victims” and other participants who played key roles in conveying the impression of a massacre of children at Sandy Hook.
In addition, a new player, Wolfgang Halbig, has emerged who by background, experience and qualifications–as a former Florida State Trooper, former school principal and nationally recognized expert on school safety–has brought a new level of expertise to sorting out the illusion, where he is convinced it was a sham and that no one died at Sandy Hook.
These incentives include real estate transactions, whereby valuable homes were deeded to Newtown’s three Selectmen and to other participants for the sale price of $0 dollars on 25 December 2009, which may be the only real estate transactions on Christmas in the nation day, where they constituted very special and high-value-at-no-cost “Christmas presents”. The “survivors” have already raked in $27 million in donations to split. And now we have a new report that 200 Connecticut State Police are going to be rewarded for essentially “doing nothing”.
This information is so extraordinary that, as a journalist for Veterans Today, I have written to Newtown’s Selectmen, Patricia Llorda, William F.L. Rogers and James Gaston, Sr., to either confirm or deny that they were among the recipients of these extraordinary gifts. I am awaiting their replies. And, for the rest, in their eagerness to cash in on the hoax, they seem to have posted a United Way donation request 3 days early.
Who is Wolfgang Halbig?
A former Florida State Trooper, who spent 36 years as a school administrator (including as assistant principal and principal) and a nationally recognized authority on school safety (who also served as an expert witness in the Columbine shooting case), has an impressive biographical sketch, which I am providing here. He is by far the most highly qualified expert to address the questions raised by the Sandy Hook “event”:
The exceptional interview by Dave Gahary with Wolfgang Halbig has been posted on the America Free Press YouTube channel, where it has been drawing rave reviews and, as they say, has “gone viral”, perhaps especially because he has been threatened with prosecution for raising questions with Connecticut state officials. How could anyone of his credentials be threatened simply for asking questions about Sandy Hook?
To listen to the interview of Wolfgang Halbig by David Gahary, click
Wolfgang on YouTube here
The fascinating questions that Wolfgang has raised include, “Why were 26 small Christmas Trees behind the Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire Department on 14 December 2012 and decorated on 15 December 2012?” They do not have, say, 60 or 100 trees because, if they did, it would be obvious that they would be having a Christmas tree sale. But instead we see that they have just 26 small trees all by themselves. That would seem to suggest there was a plan to have 26 “victims” whose deaths were to be observed, but before the event to be commemorated had taken place.
As he wrote of the Sandy Hook Research Group and others, “There are so many of you who have dedicated so much time and effort in seeking the truth which the CT State Police and the Danbury State Attorney refuses to share reminds me of Nazi Germany and East Berlin were many of my family members lived and died. My father spend four years in a Nazi prison camp so I know personally that if you or we ever stop asking questions and stop challenging those in power we the people are no longer free and will no longer be safe.”
Letter to the Newtown Selectmen
It was astonishing to discover that very unusual real estate transactions had taken place on 25 December 2009, where the homes of 15 of the 20 Sandy Hook child victims, 1-2 of the 7 adult victims, and all 6 of the Sandy Hook adult non-victims (the Phelps, Gene Rosen, the three Selectmen) have the mysterious sale date of Christmas Day and $0 sale price. Although not gifted on that same date, even the home of Nancy Lanza, the purported mother of the alleged shooter, Adam Lanza, was bestowed upon her for $0 on 8 February 2011:
Nancy Lanza’s home
Altogether, some 35 homes were “gifted” for $0, where the data base for home sales is a matter of public record. These stunning transactions are so extraordinary and potentially explanatory that they are even being featured on YouTube, where I expect that they will now begin to receive the attention they deserve. I decided to write to the three Selectmen of Newtown, all of whom were recipients of this remarkable largess, for their verification. I had originally sent my inquiry to the members of the School Board, but noticed my mistake and corrected it:
Date: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM
Subject: The strange purchase date and price of Sandy Hook homes
To: Patricia Llorda, William F.L. Rogers and James Gaston, Sr.
Cc: wolfgang halbig
Dear Newtown Selectmen,
This is to forward to you a message intended for you as well as the members of the Newtown School Board, since all of you have an interest in accurate and truthful reporting about Sandy Hook and such events as may have transpired at the elementary school.
I was struck by the recent article in which Selectman Llodra complimented the national press for its “respectful professionalism” in covering the observance of those events. Since I want to make sure I have my facts straight about a story that involves the three of you, I would appreciate having your comments on the article that I have just forwarded to the members of the School Board.
Thanks for a prompt response.
James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
McKnight Professor Emeritus
University of Minnesota Duluth
———- Forwarded message ———-
From: James Fetzer
Date: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM
Subject: The strange purchase date and price of Sandy Hook homes
To: Debbie Leidlein, Laura Roche, Keith Alexander, John Vouros, David Freedman, Michelle Embree Ku, Kathy Hamilton
Cc: wolfgang halbig
Dear Newtown School Board Members,
While we are on the subject, I would like to invite your attention to an extremely disturbing article,
“The Strange Purchase Date and Price of Sandy Hook Homes”, http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/02/14/strange-purchase-date-price-sandy-hook-homes/
which I hope you can clarify for me because, as a journalist, I want to make sure I have things right. It lists some highly unusual real estate transactions on Christman Day of 2009, including these:
20. E. (Elin) Patricia Llodra, 70:
Llodra is the First Selectman and head of Newtown’s 3-member Board of Selectmen who supervise the administration of the town. Like the other two board members (#21 and #22 below), Llodra was elected to a 2-year term (12/1/2011 to 12/1/2013), which means the three were in charge of Newtown at the time of the Sandy Hook massacre. All three were recently reelected to another 2-year term (12/1/2013 to 12/1/2015).
A year ago, when I looked up Ellin P. Llodra on people search engines, her address was listed as 90 Riverside Rd, Sandy Hook, CT 06482.
VGS a year ago and today says Owner of Record: Robert M. & Ellin P. Llodra Ownership history: Sold to Robert M. & Ellin P. Llodra on 12/25/2009 for $0. Trulia has no price history on this property.
But when I look up Ellin Llodra on people search today, her address is listed as 3 Primrose St., Newtown, CT 06470, which is the address of the Newtown Municipal Center, and is owned by the Town of Newtown, with a sale date of12/25/2009 and a sale price of $0.
21. William Rodgers (2nd member of Newtown’s Board of Selectmen):
208 Hattertown Rd, Newtown, CT 06470 VGS says Owners: William & Moira Rodgers Ownership history: Sold to William & Moira Rodgers on 12/25/2009 for $0 Trulia’s price history: 4/22/1992 $362,000
22. James Gaston Sr. (3rd member of Newtown’s Board of Selectmen):
18 Main St., Newtown, CT 06470 VGS says Owner: Stephanie A. Gaston Ownership history: Sold to Stephanie A. Gaston on 12/25/2009 for $0 Trulia’s price history: 10/2/1992 $262,500
Frankly, I have never heard of anyone completing a real estate transaction on Christmas Day. The author summarizes his conclusions about these very strange transactions as follows:
“The homes of 15 of the 20 Sandy Hook child victims, 1-2 of the 7 adult victims, and all 6 of the Sandy Hook adult non-victims (the Phelps, Gene Rosen, the three Selectmen) have the mysterious sale date and $0 sale price.
“At the very least, that is interesting. The three Selectmen are especially interesting because if the hypothesis is that the massacre was a contrived event, then Newtown’s highest governing body would have to be “in the know.”
“Your guess is as good as mine as to what all those strange 12/25/2009 sale dates and $0 sale price mean. I’d appreciate input from readers of this blog who are in the real estate business and can shed some light of what the odd sale date and sale price mean.”
Since I am providing you with a link to this stunning article, whose contents you can confirm for yourselves, I would like to know if its author has anything wrong; and if his research is accurate, what in the world is going on? Homes in your area are extremely expensive. Why were you, the three selectmen, for example, deeded homes for $0 on 25 December 2009? Please do explain.
I will be publishing more articles about this and I want to make sure that I have my facts straight.
Thanks for a prompt response.
James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
McKnight Professor Emeritus
University of Minnesota Duluth
P.S. An interview with Wolfgang Halbig is now up on YouTube. You don’t want to miss it:
Letter to the Newtown School Board
Learning that all three of the Newtown Selectmen, including Patricia Llodra, had received homes for $0 dollars shed light on the whole bizarre Sandy Hook experience, where it became obvious in retrospect that her expression of appreciation to the main stream media for their “respectful professionalism” in covering the observance was really an expression of appreciation for covering up what had actually happened. When Wolfgang wrote to the School Board, therefore, I sent my own follow up:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, James Fetzer <email@example.com wrote:
Dear Newtown School Board Members,
As a former Marine Corps officer, retired university professor and especially as a journalist for Veterans Today, who has published several articles about the Sandy Hook event, I would like to have your response to what Wolfgang Halbig has addressed to you. Wolf is a former Florida State Trooper, a former school principal and a nationally recognized expert on school safety. Are you going to respond to his inquiries or will you pretend you never received them?
There are multiple indications that you, the Newtown School Board, have been participating in a cover up of what took place at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As we have observed in “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax” (with Vivian Lee, Sofia Smallstorm, James Tracy and other members of the Sandy Hook Research Group), the evidence is simply overwhelming that what happened was a carefully staged drill and not an actual shooting.
The questions that Wolfgang has raised are important ones, especially about the event itself but also about the building, which have been reported in articles that have appeared in the press, including “Widespread Haz-Mat Presence Would Have Hampered Sandy Hook Renovations” by John Voket (2 December 2013), which appeared in The Newtown Bee. And of course First Selectman Pat Llorda has been quoted thanking the press for its coverage of the Newtown event.
The questions that Wolfgang has raised about Sandy Hook Elementary School are obvious and elementary. As a journalist who has published and will continue to publish about this event, I want to be sure that I have my facts straight. So be sure to include me in your response to Wolfgang. And if you were not participating in a massive hoax to mislead the American people, inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks for a prompt response.
James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
McKnight Professor Emeritus
University of Minnesota Duluth
From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:38:20 -0500
To: Debbie Leidlein, Laura Roche, Keith Alexander, John Vouros, David Freedman, Michelle Embree Ku, Kathy Hamilton
Subject: Follow the CT Laws on the Ct Freedom of Information Act and please return phone calls
School Board Chairman and Board Members:
I have spend a lifetime as a Florida State Trooper In Miami, Florida from 1974 through 1977 and then realizing that I’m in the wrong profession.
When you work as a Law Enforcement Officer in Miami, Florida it seems as a lifetime even if it is only 3 years or less.
I was putting people in Jail instead of trying to prevent them from going to jail.
So I became a School Administrator for 36 school years.
I became a National School Safety Consultant after retiring form Education in 1999.
I was appointed by former Gov. Jeb Bush to the Florida Safe Schools Commission and confirmed by the Florida Senate.
I am asking you the Board Members to help me in getting your school superintendent to repsond to my Ct Freedom of Information Requests in a timely manner.
Your Facility Director does not even return phone calls after leaving a polite message.
My requests are simple requests and will not place your school district in any danger whatsoever.
I was an Expert witness in the Columbine shooting in 1999 and it causes me to ask the same questions.
I was in the Media Center three days after the shooting and I personally observed the horrific crime scene and I got to see it after they renovated the Media Center for School use again.
The incident at Sandy Hook Elementary School has caused nothing but panic and fear throughout all schools in our country and I believe you have a responsibility as Board Members to tell the truth as to:
Why were NO trauma Helicopters requested that morning when lives could have been saved?
Why No paramedics or EMT’S were allowed into the school building instead they were told to set up Triage?
Who declared all 24 school children and school staff legally dead within the first 11 minutes since only a Doctor can do that not a police officer per CT State Laws?
Two children supposedly died at the hospital which it took over an hour to transport. Why?
Who did the school board contract to remove all Bio-Hazards from the Sandy Hook Elementary School such as 45 to 65 gallons of blood, brain tissues and skull fragments, blood splatter, blood carpet removal etc just as they did at Columbine?
Who was the contractor who installed the security system at sandy Hook Elementary school and the total cost of the project?
Copies of the tri-annual Asbestos inspections that must be conducted by a Certified Inspector from outside the school system and that all parents must be notified of any asbestos, lead or any other dangerous substances that could cause harm to children and school staff on an annual basis.
I have requested those reports from 2002 through current year 2012. Now what is so difficult in providing me with those reports since parents of Sandy Hook should see those every school year?
I am asking you as a former educator and National School Safety Consultant to respond to my Ct Freedom of Information Act requests and return phone calls in a timely manner. You have had Dr. Ron Stephens National School Safety Center speak with you and he will give me a great reference if you check me out.
I will not stop asking as you will see until board members have the courage in sharing the truth.
How can a Lt. from the Newtown Police Department working an off-duty detail on Dec 14, 2012 and hearing that shots are fired at Sandy Hook Elementary School not leave his off duty job to repsond in saving children and school staff lives? He decided to stay until over two and a half hours passed to respond.
How can you [have] allowed that type of response from police in your community. He should be fired and not praised in your meetings?
Please have your school district respond to my requests.
Wolfgang W Halbig
Wolfgang’s questions for The Newtown Bee
His letter to The Newtown Bee was so completely appropriate and reasonable that it seemed to me a bit more heat was deserved in this case, so I wrote a sequel in which I raised questions about an event as embarrassing relative to Sandy Hook as Jane Standley’s report of the “collapse” of WTC-7, which was broadcast 27 minutes early. So I asked about its very strange report of a phone call from the principal, Dawn Hochsprung, about the shooting, when she was said to be the first victim:
From: James Fetzer
Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM
Subject: About Wolfgang Halbig’s inquiries to The Newtown Bee
To: [Newtown Bee Staff]
Cc: wolfgang halbig
Dear Bee Editors and Staff,
As a former Marine Corps officer, retired university professor and especially as a journalist for Veterans Today, who has published several articles about the Sandy Hook event, I would like to have your response to what Wolfgang Halbig has addressed to you. Wolf is a former Florida State Trooper, a former school principal and a nationally recognized expert on school safety. Are you going to respond to his inquiries or pretend you never received them?
There are multiple indications that you, The Newtown Bee, have been participating in a cover up of what took place at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As we have observed in “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax” (with Vivian Lee, Sofia Smallstorm, James Tracy and other members of the Sandy Hook Research Group), you even published an interview with Dawn Hochsprung after she was officially dead:
Dawn Hochsprung—In an embarrassing fiction, The Newtown Bee reported on 14 December 2013 that Dawn Hochsprung, the Sandy Hook school principal, told the paper that a masked man had entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shots – more than she could count – that went “on and on.” Of course, Dawn Hochsprung was allegedly killed by Adam Lanza and so could not easily have provided this statement. In fact, Dawn was said to have acted heroically, dying while lunging at the gunman—although one wonders who witnessed and reported this act of heroism. On 17 December 2013, The Bee retracted the report and apologized:
An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school’s principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have caused the Hochsprung family.
But how in the world could something like that have happened unless someone went off the script? Why in the world would anyone PRETEND TO BE THE PRINCIPAL OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND CALL IN TO REPORT A SHOOTING? Surely you can see that your flimsy attempt to explain away an embarrassing gaff by The Newton Bee isn’t going to persuade anyone that you are not complicit in this massive deception and hoax? So be sure to include me in your response to Wolfgang, because I want to have my facts straight. And if you were not participating in a massive hoax to mislead the American people, inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks for a prompt response.
James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
McKnight Professor Emeritus
University of Minnesota Duluth
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Wolfgang Halbig wrote:
Editor and reporters and Hicks:
How can you as a staff sit back in your offices and allow this to happen under your watch?
Your failure in placing every parent on notice before the Sandy Hook School Shooting about the serious high level of lead, asbestos and PCB’s in that school since it was built in 1956 should have been a warning sign long before they decided to tear it down.
Why did your News Paper not warn every parent and school board members of the serious exposures that every child and school staff member is confronted with on a daily basis and NO one warned the parents or school staff?
As you know by CT State and even Federal laws the Sandy Hook Elementary School is required to have a tri-annual Asbestos inspection by an outside certified asbestos inspector.
Those findings must be reported to parents of the children and school staff of Sandy Hook on an annual basis.
The school district must write a letter to very parent informing them of the high level of lead, Asbestos such as asbestos ceiling tiles, asbestos floor tiles and just as you finally reported before tearing down the school of how bad those Asbestos and Haz-Mat conditions where.
Children and school staff are working in classroom with high amounts of lead paint. Have you ever heard of allergies?
You call this a Vanguard School knowing that every child and school staff member who attended was being exposed to high levels of lead, serious Asbestos violations and many other Has-mat conditions such as PCB’s.
Why would any Elementary School parent allow their child to attend that school unless all those conditions were remediated long time ago?
These are serious conditions that a school district ignored and you must have known or maybe just an oversight in letting parents know of how bad those environmental conditions in that school where.
Did the school district on an annual basis write letters to every parent in informing them of these serious Haz-Mat and Asbestos conditions? You should find out because it is the law.
So what was Sandy Hook about?
Are the Newtown Selectmen going to move to make real estate records immune from public disclosure, just as the Newtown Clerk moved to keep children’s death certificates out of the public domain? Just how dumb are we supposed to be? As I explained in an earlier article, “Fusion and Fear in America: The Non-Existent Domestic Terrorist Threat”, on the basis of an extensive study by a subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Intelligence, there appears to be no domestic terrorist threat, which may account for why we are subjected to contrived events, such as Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing:
“Despite reviewing 13 months’ worth of reporting originating from fusion centers from April 1, 2009 to April 30, 2010, the Subcommittee investigation could identify no reporting which uncovered a terrorist threat, nor could it identify a contribution such fusion center reporting made to disrupt an active terrorist plot.”–US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
While this finding appears to be of the greatest importance to the American public, to the best of my knowledge, the mass media has ignored it completely. We know about the 300 or more FEMA camps distributed around the country. We know that Congress has authorized 30,000 drones to conduct surveillance on the American people. We know that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had requisitioned 1.5 billion rounds of .40 calibre hollow-point ammunition, which is not permissible for use in warfare under the Geneva Conventions. And we know that Hitler, like Obama, promoted gun control in the name of “public safety”.
Since DHS does not conduct operations abroad, it must be acquiring that massive stock of ammo for use on us right here in the United States. That much is alarming enough all by itself. What we didn’t know is that DHS is some kind of monstrous joke, that it has been squandering billions of taxpayers’ dollars, and that it has turned up no evidence of any domestic terrorist threat! NONE! The situation is absurd. DHS has no financial oversight and cannot even identify how much it has spent, where there is more than $1 billion difference in its own estimates. So what precisely are we getting for our money?
Perhaps the biggest obstacle to the public’s acceptance of Sandy Hook fakery, in spite of a mountain of evidence that proves it, has been the question of motivation: What could possibly have induced so many to have lied so much about a matter of such immense significance, which has been parlayed into greater restrictions on gun control and new “mental health criteria” that entitle your physician to ask you about gun ownership? The answer, alas, should be obvious to everyone: free homes and free money from playing the American people for suckers. Don’t say no one ever told you, because we just did.
Wolfgang Halbig, a former Florida State Trooper with 36 years of experience as a school administrator, is also a nationally recognized authority on school safety and has been threatened for asking questions about Sandy Hook.
Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth and a journalist and editor for Veterans Today.
This article originally appeared at Veterans Today on February 16, 2014. It is republished here with permission.
Reblogged this on Flying Tiger Comics and commented:
Ignore the Fetzer attention whore, the glory is all to Wolfgang Habig.
Thank you, ‘Flyingtigercomics’. I also wish the author of this article was someone, anyone, other than Fetzer.
I don’t understand what gives with your people. I was the first to put Wolfgang on the air, which was broadcast on “The Real Deal” on 24 January 2014 (go to http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com). I arranged for Dave Gahary to do his interview, which has now gone viral.
And I think I am the first to publish about him in “After two defeats over Sandy Hook, AFP editor declines a third debate”, 28 January 2014. So I have no idea where you are coming from. I am trying to get the truth out into the public domain. What are the two of you doing?
Prof. what do u think about the US Federal Reserve Bank (legalized) COUNTERFEIT scam?–don’t u think the Fed is ultimately at the bottom of all these BIG-LIES and horrific false-flags, including 9/11, etc.? Note Fed has plenty of money to hire and finance shills to be-devil u and blogs like this. I think USA is now in hands of absolute satanists–look at Sec. State Kerry pushing “climate-change” BIG-LIE.
That’s an excellent point. The FED is just a printing press. It took me forever to realize there is NOTHING BACKING UP OUR CURRENCY, which is why maintaining the dollar as the unit of exchange for oil has become the preoccupation of the United States abroad in dealing with nations like Iraq, Libya and Iran, which abandoned the petro-dollar. If you want to know why we have targeted them, that’s close to the core.
Yes indeed, Prof., u know, USA used to be manufacturing titan–which would back the Dollar, but now that manufacturing is all at least half gone, sent overseas, USA now debtor nation. U’re right, all USA does now is kill people. Have u hrd about fluoride poisoning, toxic vaccines, poison “chem-trails”?–these all now slow-killing US citizens?
You are completely correct. Bill Clinton was used to sell us NAFT and the WTO, which are key components of the New World Order. The TPP is another giant step in the wrong direction to impoverish the US.
We have been stripped of our manufacturing base, companies and jobs have moved overseas (“outsourcing”) and we have been left with no industrial capacity but are reduced to a pathetic “service economy”.
In combination with the fluoridation of our water supplies (where it took genius to convert an industrial waste product into an alleged benefit) and the ubiquitous viewing of television, we are losing our intelligence.
Fukushima, the Gulf BP disaster and the tacit use of nukes in the Middle East are contaminating the world–compounded by chem-trails. So I have to agree–you are on the right track. Things have gone terribly wrong,
The dollar actually tanked on Jan. 1, 1965 when 90% silver content was removed from quarters and dimes. The 50 cent piece was decimated in 1970 when its sliver content was reduced from 50% to zero. The final blow came in 1983 when the lowly penny went from 90% copper content to zero. The currency has been like a coupon since my childhood, and it is only downhill from there.
Think about it for a moment, a simple quarter has intrinsically the same value between the coinage act of 1793 and 1964.
Prof: I submit we’re up against out-and-out SATANISTS, not mere “leftists” or “fascists”–these people WORSHIP lies–look at Kerry pushing “climate-change” BIG-LIE (which works by getting folks to fool themselves as they confront the enormity of the false proposition), the lying of Obongo now legendary–how he’s done exact opposite of what he campaigned upon. I seriously think we need nothing less than a veritable religious-type movement–to save humanity–much like the original movement of St. Constantine the Great.
Apollonian, I agree – I feel it in my heart. I know others feel it too – so many people are so vocal about the layer of evil that seems to have engulfed us.
I have always thought I’d live to see the end of it all as we know it…even as a young child (that was a lot of decades ago). There is so much that is very, very wrong and the layers of corruption so thick. “It” is all around us.
25 Rules of Disinformation, Rule 17
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can ‘argue’ with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
THIS is one of my key concerns with people who are dragging Tracy and now Halbig into a situation where there are childish “sides” rather than giving them clear air.
You could play “disinformation bingo” with both Fetzer and Smallstorm on this.
This is slovenly and unwarranted. Sofia has made extremely important contributions to 9/11 (with “9/11 Mysteries”) and to Sandy Hook (with “Unraveling Sandy Hook”). Her dedication and integrity are beyond reproach.
I had not even posted here when I discovered you were smearing me right and left (with minor players like Martha and Benjamin Freedman chiming it). How is it “changing the subject” to expose you as a fake and a fraud for doing that?
The fact is, you like to dish it out but can’t take it. That is a sure sign of duplicity and cowardice. You don’t even use you own name and I am sure you have never made a significant contribution to 9/11 or Sandy Hook. If I am wrong, then prove it.
None of your belittlements has been accompanied by the least shred of proof. You are long on allegations but short on logic and evidence. I have dealt with many despicable trolls in my work on JFK and 9/11. Do you not realize how obvious you are?
Mate, if you really want to arc up, all I am going to do is walk away. I don’t like what you do or how you do it. You can keep doing it, same as Alex Jones or anyone else.
But it’s a two-way street. If you keep coming in over the top of genuine researchers, you are going to keep encountering resistance.
And making an ad hominem assault in the context in which you are doing it is just another permutation of the same 25 Rules of Disinformation that caught you out the first time.
All this angst and argument is very personal to you, it’s part of the schtick, I get that.
But this is a serious topic. To free oneself from the lapdog media only to see new entrepreneurs try and recreate it is not acceptable.
You really are the bottom of the pit. You come here and pollute this excellent site with one ad hom after another, cloaked in the pretense you are monitoring the gates and keeping on the straight and narrow.
What a farce! I have made contribution after contribution to JFK, 9/11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing and dozens and dozens of other subjects, while you lob spit balls and corrupt this fine forum.
You are as disgusting as it gets in troll-land, where you appear to be on the top of the heap. But like cow dung, that is not a quality in demand here, where those in search of truth value truth seekers, not frauds.
25 Rules of Disinformation, Rule 18:
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how ‘sensitive they are to criticism.’
Of course the ones accusing you of disinfo must fight hard. When you look at the activism of our one-party system, always the war party (as Gore Vidal put it), they have agendas to meet and people to pay so that distrust is sown even among those who understand that these fake terror events are psyops. After all the propaganda was developed to be believed so that other things can be inflicted on the public, such as hating other countries and starting wars. As remote as the recent SHES event and the Boston Marathon (related to it by the “dedication” to SHES) show, things tend to leak out. Photos of an event show its falsehood, even though the body count was always suspect. They’ve condemned themselves or perhaps foreign intelligence has leaked the images to us. Whatever it is, you can see that the whole mess is heating up.
Many people predicted that Russia would be targeted during the Olympics, and voila! Chechens were cast as our enemy probably so that we could deny we use them when we attack Russia in places like Syria and Ukraine. The whole thing smells of a run-up to war with the ally of Russia, Iran, and a general conflagration in the area. Nor has the other member of the Axis of Evil from Bush’s State of the Union been forgotten. The media is all over North Korea lately, suddenly noticing that it is running camps like the Nazis. When that N-word is used, you know they are in the sights of someone’s big gun.
How could these domestic events be linked to geopolitical ambitions? Well, easy. If you can get the population into your pocket as with 9/11, if you can make them say with you that black is white and white is black, and get them cheering for your militarism, you’ve set the stage for more war. It’s a question of conditioning them to accept your “security”, your “protection”, and to get them to believe that when they go on one of your insane raids, they are merely defending the country.
It is the system of government which we now have in which I vote no confidence. I do not attack the messengers who have exposed it and offered a forum to discuss its lies.
Prof Fetzer – No need to defend against comics’ slurs. Move on. Bigger, more meaningful, battles await your team. Stay focused and remember that MANY are supporting and appreciate your research.
flyingtigercomics, to accuse someone of disinforming, particularly on purpose as would be a requirement for the charge, is a fairly serious thing to do. Otherwise all people who are either semi-informed, or just taking their own spin on an issue, become somehow intentional agents of TPTB.
It seems to cheapen that power – to call out real disinformation – to hurl it around casually. As someone who aims to point out how much disinformation comes out of the government, or some entity, I personally make sure that my claims are either grounded in solid, directly-related facts or attach to my arguments a disclaimer admitting to not being 100% certain.
Your inability to elucidate the exact mechanics linking Jim Fetzer’s work to your abstract ‘rules’ fails to prove much to me. I certainly have a high regard for Sophia’s work, without of course being able to vouch for every claim she makes (and who is right 100% of the time?). I am not as familiar with Jim Fetzer’s work, although shallowly acquainted, and give him major points, if not all in this round at least, for standing in public and making his claims, as opposed to your position of hurling them from the safety of anonymity.
ETA: I meant to write ‘if perhaps all’ regarding this particular round between Jim Fetzer and his anonymous accusers.
@ Mr. Fetzer who wrote to Flyingtigercomics: You really are the bottom of the pit.
No one here is the “bottom of the pit”.
Let’s put egos aside and focus on what’s important. After all, we’re all in this together!
Mr. Halbig needs to be kept in the public eye so he isn’t suicided, and all genuine seekers of truth need to stop media whores and attention whores from overshadowing him, appropriating his clear headed work or confusing the issues he raises with their own crap.
I note with delight that he speaks English and uses normal English terms rather than confabulatory phraseology such as “dimensions”, “vicsims” and the rest of the garbonzo beans.
Halbig is perfectly qualified for his task, all he really needs is a responsive audience to promulgate his work whilst at the same time starving the lapdog media of oxygen.
Fetzer must seem like a “thank goodness someone else with credentials” is partnering with me on this. Dr. Tracy welcomed Dr. Fetzer’s involvement as well. Unlike Dr. Tracy, Jim Fetzer seems everywhere on several hoax events. I’m not smart enough to know what controlled opposition is but Jim Fetzer might be.
Ben: Fetzer says Sandy Hook seems to be more an elaborated DRILL–not real event–isn’t this clear enough on this issue?–what do u want?
U don’t know what “controlled opposition,” but u do seem to think u know enough that Fetzer is such controlled opposition?–ho ho ho–makes lots of sense.
You’re right. Maybe the aim of controlled opposition is to agree, supplement, add new passion, make much noise, and make damn sure nothing is done about it and it doesn’t go anywhere? He just turns up everywhere.
I don’t want to unleash hate on anyone but I have to say, Fetzer fits the profile of a disinformation agent in as much as he derails every discussion and provides contamination by association for Tracy and now Halbig. That is of concern.
I agree the relief of credentialled people agreeing with you is a source of comfort, but that’s kind of how that type of disinfo agent works.
I’ve raised the concern about Dr. Tracy too- he is too valuable and too good to have his own activity diluted. For example during the storm in a teacup over Alex Jones and those who criticise him. Tracy ended up supporting in a war he had no essential interest in- and the effect is to polarise people about Tracy, not Jones.
Of course Jones, Fetzer, “Smallstorm” and the rest are all marketers, not truthers, and it shows. Tracy and Halbig are cut from very different cloth.
We have out Captain Marvel and our Batman. we don’t need a Booster Gold.
Right! A former Marine Corps officer who has devoted more than 20 years exposing the complicity of the government in the death of JFK, the atrocities of 9/11, the plane crash that killed Sen. Paul Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing and the NSA surevillance program is BOUND to be an op!
Because I have a radio show (archives at radiofetzer.blogspot.com) and write for Veterans Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/) and have been focusing on these issues during my retirement, I cover a lot of ground. But if you can’t tell me and Sofia from ops, you aren’t cut out for to address any of this.
James, You have done important research and you are without a doubt a great American. Thank you for fighting the good fight.
I second sandy. I dont always agree with fetzers methods or even his conclusions but hos work on wellstone alone is admirable. Definitely agood american.
Fetzer, your work on helping Judyth Vary Baker is admirable, and in many other areas you’ve done a service exposing various issues. Not a fan of your support for Wood, and to my knowledge you’ve never had a program or written about the Pentagon being a flyover, proven with government provided data on pilots for 9/11 truth.
…doth protest too much…
Dr. Fetzer, thank you for this reply. One simple question – has your voluminous work uncovering government conspiracies led to one single arrest? Thank you again.
You fall into a special category of those who dismiss exposing crimes by the government as though establishing the truth about JFK, 9/11 and other events were a trivial task someone like you could undertake.
I have applied my abilities as a professional scholar to investigating what happened, who was responsible and why. That is indispensable in establishing the knowledge necessary to take responsible action.
But, as your sneering remark reflects, you know perfectly well that the US government, when caught with its pants down, is going to protect itself–where petty persons like you serve their goal as gullible saps.
This nation is corrupt to its core, where we have had a succession of presidents who would never have held that position but for the death of JFK. Even Obama only sustains his position by lying to the people.
If you take pride in denigrating those of us who are doing our best to expose falsehoods and reveal truths–even though we know we will not be able to attain justice on our own–that confirms your low character.
I have had to deal with hundreds of trolls and shills, but you stand out as among the most blatant and despicable. I am sorry, but you have nothing of value to contribute and have shown you do not belong here.
Well said Mr. Fetzer.
Ben: do u think US Federal Reserve Bank COUNTERFEITING scam will suffer any arrests or suits–long as they can still churn out that funny money to paying bribes, assassins, and shills like u? Ho ho ho ho ho
Marzi, You are way out of date. I have published many articles about the Pentagon and have not supported Judy Wood for years. On the Pentagon, see “What didn’t happen at the Pentagon”, “Planes/No Planes and ‘video fakery’”, and “The Complete Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference”, which not only lays out the evidence that none of the “official” 9/11 planes crashed on 9/11 but explains that the destruction of the WTC appears to have been carried out using mini or micro nukes, where some of my recent articles about this include “9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings II”, “Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11″, and “9/11: A World Swirling in a Volcano of Lies”, where Dennis Cimino and I reconcile the roles of large nukes, small nukes and naothermite to explain how the Twin Towers were done.
You are highly defensive with your constant repetition of your catechism.
It isn’t any accident you pal around with other people who, to put it charitably, come late and throw smoke bombs.
In terms of being a disinfo agent, it’s the fruit of the tree by which we judge, if we’re sensible.
And to emphasize to any onlookers, what it may really be about for you, you are pimping a radio show and a website. Is it about money for you? Because pretty much all the best researchers are losing money over this. This topic is unworthy to be turned into clickbait by people mulching other people’s work into pablum.
I took your suggestion and looked at the articles you recommend and in the comments of 9/11: A World Swirling in a Volcano of Lies”, written by you and Dennis Cimino, Dick Eastman writes, ” . . . Fetzer argues that all the planes were holograms — it is very clear that this is an operative.” He also challenges you to a debate.
Marzi, You went to that article and this is the best you could do? Dick Eastman likes to grandstand. That article is the most read on VT this week, so he wants to invite attention to himself. I debated him before:
Wednesday, July 24, 2013
Dick Eastman vs. Jim Fetzer
9/11 debate over “the planes” in New York
Posted by Total at 11:44 PM 47 comments:
This is so far removed from Sandy Hook that it really does not belong here. I will consider whether devoting the time to Dick Eastman, who has (in my opinion) lost his way, is an appropriate allocation of resources. If we do debate, I am sure word will reach memoryholdblog.com
If, in your own opinion, you are not smart enough to know what controlled opposition is, how can you speculate that Dr. Fetzer might be one? I know what controlled opposition is (Fox News, e.g.) and I do not believe Dr. Fetzer fits the bill.
Onslow: I think the real pt. is that everyone can be assumed, at least at first, to trying to get to the truth–till they prove they’re just counter-productive to that end.
For everyone will have his/her diff. angles to things. And the pt. is to keeping to the substance and NOT getting off on ad-hominem distractions entailing who is a “dis-info op,” as this requires def. and expo on what a dis-info op is and does, etc.
flyingtigercomments is long on smears, short on evidence. I would be surprised if he had ever read any of my articles or books, apart from this one. I am not paid of any of this, but that’s the kind of claim the CIA suggests using against critics of THE WARREN REPORT. And Martha seems eager to chime in. What have either of you ever done to expose falsehoods and reveal truths about any of these matters–other than to toss a few grenades into discussion forums like this one? I am sure Jim does not like ad hominems here, but that’s all we are getting from you and her. If you have something to contribute that might be of value, do that; but attacking me without any reason doesn’t cut it. OK?
I agree, flyingtiger doesn’t offer much evidence. I went back to read again his posts, and I don’t see much substance.
I think just about everyone (within the truth movement) has been called a dis-info agent at some point. I even saw someone claiming Dr. Tracy to be an agent on a Youtube message board!!
I think the best advice for anyone trying to avoid shills and dis-info agents is to always keep moving, find new sources to follow, question everything you hear, open up to new possibilities, listen to the enemy too, and try to be a good filter!
There is only one party in our government – The Party. Both officially acknowledged parties act as controlled op ultimately. It’s always been this way, more or less, it’s just that within the last 50 and particularly 15 years the gap between the empowered, the top 1.5%, and the middle class of semi-dupes has widened so that soon all of the latter will be total dupe serfs.
Thanks to all, Profs. Tracy and Fetzer, as well as all the contributors. I can’t wait to see if they respond. They are, no doubt, spending time in a huddle as we speak.
Will the answers to these questions be as hollow as those provided thus far?
If anyone wonders how important this is, I would just talk about an ad I just saw for Spaulding Rehab (which alleged to have helped “survivors” of the “Marathon Bombers”), that also included a story of a massive earthquake in Italy and some other events which had some independent verification that they really happened. I began to see the corrupted story of one event I knew to be false blurred the sense that the others were what they said. Let’s say you wanted to offer to charity and help people. How could you do it if you never knew which ones were real and which ones were put out as a source for political slush funds?
If the SHES hoax fails, then it has to affect the much larger, much more corrupt Marathon Bumming and that in turn has to harm real charities, either because the public has given to the fake ones and starved the ones that feed the homeless, pay for children’s cancer treatment, help deal with real hurricanes and earthquakes or because the fake money funds now can metastasize and draw in ever larger amounts of money until they can never be prosecuted because of the pay-offs they can make, eventually making the public distrust any charity.
I think what I meant to say was that even as the truth comes out, and I hope it will, confidence will for a time be shaken in even legitimate charities. But I think that in the long run it is worth it and not to allow this stuff to fester and ruin everything we believe in.
I’ve come to believe that aside from Corporate Donations (which may be coerced) there are very few (if any) contributors to the so called ‘Charities’ that we hear so much about. What better way could there be for the Federal Government to quietly and secretly channel funds to the people that cooperated ? As Sophia Smallstorm asked in her video, “I don’t know anyone who donated, do you ?”
In Boston, near where I live, there were if not traceable charitable donations, a lot of weird shrines set up near the alleged crime scenes. I saw one at MIT where they said Sean Collier was shot. It looked pretty tacky and not the style of MIT students or faculty, so maybe it was faked. But I do know that a lot of people who said they knew Sean Collier were acting mournful. It was also reported that normal charities which rely on donations particularly in cold times of year (and as tax write-offs for those who give) were hurting because of the diversion into the constantly solicited Boston One Fund. At least 60 corporate sponsors shelled out to them, sponsors which might have directed their charity elsewhere had they not been pressured to give to it.
I really do think it had an adverse impact on normal compassion.
This seems to sum up a lot of what is happening
“One of the most serious conditions that enable the expansion of the corporate-state surveillance apparatus is the erasure of public memory. The renowned anthropologist David Price rightly argues that historical memory is one of the primary weapons to be used against the abuse of power and that is why “those who have power create a ‘desert of organized forgetting.’ ”
“Since the terrorist attacks of 9/11, America has succumbed to a form of historical amnesia fed by a culture of fear, militarization and precarity.”
Interesting article. But highly intellectual, as though it is all a fait accompli. Perhaps the eternal surveillance is itself partly illusion. And as for the anxiety to be complicit in the destruction of one’s own privacy (particularly for the younger generations) I am not so sure. Perhaps there are some bent on thwarting that exploitation of their lives.
Fetzer, Halbig, and Tracy are brave men.
FWIW, I just visited rense.com and it looks like he’s linking to Fetzer and Wolfgang’s article on “Free Homes, Big Bucks for Sandy Hook Players” (but he has to fix the link). Right below that story he has “Sandy Hook Real Estate Agent Vanishes – Knew Too Much?” which links to this: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Six-months-after-Newtown-man-s-disappearance-no-5218083.php Obviously, I have no idea if this guy had any connection to the shady real estate deals, but hopefully others can dig into this a bit further.
Thank you Mr. Halbig!!
I just noticed you posed the BIG QUESTION: *****”Who was the contractor who installed the security system at sandy Hook Elementary school and the total cost of the project?”*****
In all my research, I’ve not found the Security Consultant named.
As a follow-up, I think it is important to ask the scope of the project.
On the topic of School Security, I would like to suggest an addition to “So What was Sandy Hook about?”
That addition is “Peddling Fear for Cash.” Homeland Security contractors are chomping at the bit to get into America’s schools.
In February, as a response to Sandy Hook, Ingersoll Rand announced on the website “Homeland Security Today”:
“The greatest impediment to protecting school children is funding. Therefore, Ingersoll Rand has augmented its grant-funding consultation capability to school administrators, facility and maintenance personnel and others by offering data from its 24/7 cloud-based database of federal and state grant funding information that identifies $11.5 billion in funding sources.”
The author Naomi Klein reports on the billion dollar export from Israel that fuels the US Homeland Security in her article “Labratory for a Fortressed World”, http://www.thenation.com/article/laboratory-fortressed-world#
“But in researching the explosion of Israel’s homeland security sector, it strikes me that they are something else too: laboratories where the terrifying tools of our security states are being field-tested.
Palestinians–whether living in the West Bank or what the Israeli politicians are already calling “Hamasistan”–are no longer just targets. They are guinea pigs.
So in a way Friedman is right: Israel has struck oil. But the oil isn’t the imagination of its techie entrepreneurs. The oil is the war on terror, the state of constant fear that creates a bottomless global demand for devices that watch, listen, contain and target “suspects.” And fear, it turns out, is the ultimate renewable resource.”
According to Klein’s article Israel now sends $1.2 billion in “defense” products to the United States–up dramatically from $270 million in 1999. In 2006 Israel exported $3.4 billion in defense products–well over a billion more than it received in US military aid. Much of this growth has been in the so-called “homeland security” sector. Before 9/11 homeland security barely existed as an industry.
By the end of this year, Israeli exports in the sector will reach $1.2 billion–an increase of 20 percent. The key products and services are high-tech fences, unmanned drones, biometric IDs, video and audio surveillance gear, air passenger profiling and prisoner interrogation systems–precisely the tools and technologies Israel has used to lock in the occupied territories.”
Consider this, if the US turns off the spigot that funds all this “Homeland Security” due to the lack of ROI (and lack of terrorists), a number Security Firms will be hurt financially.
(However, 10 years later, DHS has been unable to establish goals or metrics to ensure that funds were used to make Americans safe, and cannot accurately measure how much safer we are today after spending $35 billion.
Sen. Coburn’s report on the failures of “Homeland Security” is available for download here: http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/oversightaction
Thank you for helping with the big picture here: a security industry which takes the term “protection racket” to new levels of criminality.
I too called the Newtown assessors office after watching so many of “namesnotmary” You Tube videos. Curiosity got the best of me and I called the assessors office, wrote to Namesnotmary and she posted the information I gave her after my phone call with the assessors office on her YT channel a few months ago. When I made my call about the $0 sales price I took vague notes as what the girl was trying to tell me. There was a comment made above which was pretty much the same as what the woman told me, that they were doing a conversion of some sort but if I wanted to see the true sales price and date I would have to go to the Newtown Clerks Office online and click on “deeds” and enter the “book page” then you will see when the sale really happened and the real price. I clicked on it while she was on the phone with me and said to her “it costs $7.00 a day to log on and I don’t want to pay, can you just tell me like the price of the Lanza home?” And like I said I was writing as fast as I could and here is what she said as I am reading from poor notes from several months ago so I don’t know what she meant but my notes say she said “Delvick” November 1998 purchase price was $455.53 and then she said something which I didn’t get “July 2011 $575,000.” Then she said “date file is date of sale” I know this is probably not of much help as it was over my head and my notes are horrible but the gist of what she was telling me was basically the same thing as what the guy said above who called this same woman (he listed her name above in his comment and I’m sure it is the same woman I talked to and he understood I it a little better and explained it better than what I’m doing but we both have the same info but what I have is a tad different which is she told me to go to the town clerks page and click on “Deeds”, enter the book page for the property you are looking for and the correct sales price will come up. Like I said I didn’t follow through because I didn’t want to pay the $7.00 a day fee to log into it as it was over my head but she did give me the one I mentioned above for free since she could log in at no cost to her and I’m not positive if I told her specifically to look up Lanza home or if she just gave me one of the first ones on the list. She spoke matter of factly, was very polite so I honestly don’t think anything nefarious is happening here. I think someone who understands real estate deeds could simply do what she told me and solve this in 5 minutes and report their findings.
We dont need to come up with a version of what happened. We just need to keep pointing out inconsistencies and asking questions they refuse to answer. Its their job to prove their case
Heres a vid i did back i in june. Lanza was a suicide so he is not covered by the privacy law. Any pictures of his dead body should be open to the public.
Also the 28 million is not accurate. Out of the 76 charities surveyed 14 did not release info on amount of donations. Why not talk about the money generated in toto which is in excess of a billion dollars? Would this not get more of the public on our side? Ive said it before, sometimes i really wonder about the “research” being done. Also it is not just money that was used as an inducement for participation. Many of the people involved had situations involving ethics investigations, drunk driving incidents, possible perjury at the federal level. But lets talk about christmas trees and the superbowl. By the way Robbie Bruce, under investigation for defrauding one of the charities involved has stated on his google page that “sandy Hook was a scam from the start”.
Larry – you are crushing this!
I hope you can save Robbie Bruce’s post before he deletes. Why would he do that? I think for the same reason Ryan posted – a public declaration to save his… and a challenge for detectives, attorneys and judges to scrutinize these Sandy Hook charities in a US courtroom.
I will be very interested to see what type of legal action is a result of Bruce’s charity fraud. If it doesn’t make it into court – that will be a clear admission of widespread fraudulent Sandy Hook charities. I am also looking into the multiple lottery winnings of one of the families to see if any more connected persons have come into “windfalls.”
Smallstorm has an excellent point – I don’t know anyone who donated money. Charities don’t even make sense – most of these parents lived in homes that cost from a quarter of a million to up over a million bucks. I don’t know anyone, other than a few stage parents who ever made money off a kid, but most parents sweat over the enormous looming costs of higher education. These charities were simply a way to funnel participation money to the insiders.
Besides, the type of people who would fall for this reality drill were much more apt to send toys. Stay on this one Odin! I would love to see this one go to court. Thanks for the great posts.
We need to ask to see photos of Adam dead, not only is he not a child but an adult and he was not a homicide but a suicide like Larry says.
Kelley i admire your efforts and would like to start a dialogue with you.
Adam Lanza is a figment of imagination.
Apparently Ryan Lanza did not recognize the picture that police provided to him initially in an effort to ID Adam
Im sorry you guys but at this point we need to think instead of jump to speculations. Tracy knew damn well what happened to these homes and the softwAre excuse from posts a while back. Why did Tracy post this? That VA site is nothing but godlikeprod conspiracies and tavistock monitoring of the lunatic fringe – fetzer is a joke. And I cant count how many times Ive heard A Jones mentioned lately on Tracy’s (this) blog. AJ is a disgusting embarrassment. I would never condone this crap on my own site – would you? Alex f*%king jones???? Are you kidding me?
So this leads to me back to what I initially thought Tracy was up to when this site got all its publicity after SH- he is testing an hypothesis re: conspiracy theory. I mean, that IS his job.
In the end, he will get to say all he did was post a radical story here and there and you lemmings took the bait.
Good lord. And please stfu about dr griffins disinfo – most all of your 911 conspiracies are debunked handily – just google this:
Distortion of Fact, by Andrew Burfield
Hey “granite”: didja know the US Dec. of Independence contains an elaborate, detailed “consp. theory”?
How ’bout New Testament wherein Christ (TRUTH) was murdered by consp. of Pharisees & Sadducees.
Do u think US Federal Reserve Bank legalized COUNTERFEITING scam is a conspiracy? Ho ho ho ho ho
I would like Dr. James Tracy to respond to Granite’s statements.
Ric: problem is “granite” asks general-type questions. Don’t u think it would be something of time-consumption to try to find something within all granite’s speechifying to “answer”? Why not just keep to the topic at hand without getting off on ad hominem tangents?
It may not be as Ric believes. Did he miss this very nice observation? And why the smear of “VA” when he doesn’t even know it’s name and, I would bet, has never read any articles from VT apart from this one?
dinophile commented on Sandy Hook: Free Homes and “Big Bucks” Incentives for Leaders and Players.
in response to Beth D.:
Dinophile…it might make sense if one was to do this, to “flaw” other records so as not to raise red flags. Problem is, they probably didn’t make these changes to enough records…if it was all or 1,000 of them, people would’ve likely blown by it. As you have a legal background – doesn’t it seem […]
Yes, I agree, Beth. I learned in law school that all states have one of three types of recording systems: “race,” “notice,” or “race-notice.” The reason for recording systems is to provide security in conveyancing. For instance, if X was giving you a deed to property, you could check the records to ensure that X had not already conveyed the property to someone else.
Putting everyone’s conveyance dates as “12/25/2009,” for $0, is simply a crime, on the face of it–alteration of public records–but not only is the clerk herself doing it, her criminal act is being protected.
The only explanation I can think of for this is that the record owners, of all these properties which were “sold” for $0, are straws, and true ownership is in another person or entity, who does not want his or her or its name in the records–and has no fear that the properties will be reconveyed by the record owners.
Mr. Fetzer, I was asking Tracy to respond to Granite’s remarks were all just dumb experiments on Tracy blog bla bla no one can trusted bla bla I never meant any offence to either of you. And yes I read alot of your articles.
That was intended for Granite, not Ric, whose request was reasonable. And if I was too harsh on Benjamin Freedman, I meant to encompass flyingtigercomics. Those of us who have done extensive research on more than one of these subjects are few and far between. I have three books on JFK, one on Wellstone, and another on 9/11, but have done over 1,000 interviews on these subjects and now am being called to do shows on Sandy Hook and Boston, where comics seems to think that I pick and choose what programs I appear on, when that is up to the hosts of those shows, most of whom I have never meet. Why in the world he wants to trash me merely because others want to hear what I have to say is beyond me. But the answer is simple: If I am a guest on a show and you don’t want to listen, don’t. That is your prerogative.
Dinophile and my (Beth’s) comments were wrapped in this one –
Dinophile: Thanks for your input. I have always taken the position that the distortion of the public record is illegal. I have looked at other $0 transfers from some parties of interest in Newtown and while some were legit (different dates/years) – such as when someone was added to or removed from the title, etc., the majority of the many examples of $0 transfers seems outrageous.
So, if there is an owner who does not wish to be known…OR if the mortgage was paid-off by some unknown benefactor and the deed transferred, surely if we order the deed paperwork, it will also be absent or flawed. I’m tempted to order a couple in my spare time…just to satisfy my curious nature — HOW I WISH I lived or was traveling close by and stop in to the county’s office.
Title insurance is an important part of a real estate transaction. If an outsider moves to town and purchases real estate, what will the title search show?
Beth, be careful what you wish for.
I think Sofia, Jim and I and the others will settle for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but that truth. That’s the idea, whatever that may be. But we cannot accept fabricated stories, false testimony or fake records.
“Be careful what you wish for” – True that, AnneB! I appreciate the info on Title transfer/insurance, etc. Thank you! Good to review.
I’m no expert, but I think land records in many counties are entirely screwed up and title people have waived their magic wand over it (in other words, I think they “pass” on a lot of stuff they shouldn’t). So many foreclosure battles have peeled back a veneer and found that titles were massively messed up. So many people have claimed they will never purchase an existing home because of the state of county records.
So, these $0 value transfers – the title people might go, “Ah…wait a sec.” and the county people reply, “Oh that, that’s nothing – that was from when we had to do xzy to all of our land records.” The title person will say, “Oh, okay” and stamp it as a passed inspection. Just my humble opinion.
You know, I just have to think with all of these Chase bankers throwing themselves off buildings or otherwise meeting their demise (probably a few have been helped) — one day this massive Sandy Hook fraud is going to implode. Now, if we could just find their weakest link and break him/her mentally…It’s going to happen – it’s just a matter of when – and if that person can escape the forced accidental/suicidal death or disappearance (eh, Mr. missing Hoagland?)….they will have some stories to tell.
I’m at a loss as to what I am responding to. That I am somehow putting people on by posting this article? Maintaining the website? Fostering public debate? “Granite” sought to crash the forum with the sort of blatant attack that I would generally not allow here, yet since it (somewhat awkwardly) seeks to place the article in the context of a previous post I have presented it for perusal.
I believe Ric was indicating that the Memory Hole Blog’s work on Sandy Hook is some kind of Tavistock Institute study of people’s reaction to a public event.
You’ve dug-up so many verifiable details on the Sandy Hook event that you’ve proven it to be a false event. Thus, you wouldn’t make a very good disinfo agent.
Granite, I just read two “debunking” articles by Andrew Burfield. Yet another debunker fails but I won’t get into it. Please do not come to this site looking for fights over 9/11. Its is only a distraction.
“That VA site is nothing but godlikeprod conspiracies and tavistock monitoring of the lunatic fringe…”
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back this up?
The only thing I agree with you is that Alex Jones is a fraud.
I am on the fence concerning Alex Jones. I just read literally a thousand comments on this very article posted today on infowars.com. They are almost 95% in favor of Sandy Hook being a complete Hoax. And some share interesting viewpoints on why Alex Jones does not come out and say that Sandy Hook is a complete Hoax. The comments at infowars pertaining to this topic are quite interesting and some have new information (from the commenters) concerning Sandy Hook.
Life is a muddle of actions and theories. Dr. Nick Beglich has produced
a summarized video of current events that can help put things into perspective. He moves seamlessly from science to philosophy to economics to politics, demonstrating a pattern of government malfeasance unique in history.
We need to understand first and then act, not just react.
Take an hour of your time–set aside a quiet time–to listen carefully to a man of science who has not lost touch with his own humanity. It will blow your mind if you are curious and engaged. Best and Bless!
I am not holding my breath for any of these Sandy Hook Production frauds to get deposed and held accountable for this act of terror. But should that happen one day, I will open a bottle of champagne to celebrate. These pathological liars and schemers would make both Hitler and Stalin really proud.
They are all in cahoots and I have no doubt they will all get away with what they’ve done. Would it be mean spirited of me to hope for a little spring flooding upon the village of Sandy Hook? Nothing too devastating, of course, but perhaps something along the line of the Johnstown flood of 1889! I would also hope that none of the homes “gifted” to these money-grubbing fraudsters would have One Sure Insurance covering floods. Quick…someone check to see if they are located in a flood plain!
They deserve to have their stolen property washed right out from under their lazy butts. As Eddie Murphy said in “Trading Places”: You know, it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people.
Mary, Wolfgang has emphatically stated that he is going to Newtown in March. He also stated that he is not afraid to die because of this event. He is a true American Hero in every facet, along the lines of General Smedley Butler. I hope that when he goes to Newtown, that he is accompanied by a state militia, for his protection and everyone’s safety.
I would not go in his capacity with less than 1000 men! The truth at the bottom of this scam is coming very, very soon.
Forgive me but my skeptic radar is up and running. I am not thoroughly convinced that Halbig is in great danger. I am also not convinced that Fetzer is usually above mortal flaws or short on humility.
As someone opined regard Ron Paul, he sometimes comes up with a few good ideas that appeal to his target audience…but…he has his own agenda that doesn’t always square with his public persona.
That’s politics, folks; we all engage in the practice.
Now, hit me with your best shot…I’m used to it.
Hi Marilyn – no shots from me. I appreciate all sides to a story.
Thanks, Beth; didn’t expect a thumb’s up but it is appreciated.
Ron Paul is just another politician. Anyone who is awake and knows the system has not voted in at least two decades, myself included.
Jim Fetzer is a very good writer for a very reputable publication, Veterans Today. The majority of Veterans, myself included, are awake, intelligent and know things are rapidly declining in America.
I chose to end my enlistment after serving for 16 years (USCG) after my branch was slated to be taken over by DHS soon after 9-11. Upon returning home to Western PA, many of my friends and family members were already skeptical of flight 93 in Shanksville. Many more are awake than one would believe.
I would say that Mr. Halbig is in danger, because that is how the CIA operates. They are very stealth at causing death by “natural causes.” Mr. Halbig has stirred the pot quite a bit on the alternative media, and now is even front and center at infowars.com of all places. The government cannot afford negative publicity on Sandy Hoax, because there are very few that can be thrown under the bus.
Who is responsible for Sandy Hook? That is an easy question to answer. At least 10,000 government officials are in on it, from the first responders of Newtown, to way beyond the White House.
Will the Sandy Hook Hoax be one of the causes of the next Civil War? Yes. Just look at what is happening in Venezuela and Kiev for an example of what to expect on American Soil in the near future.
John, thank you for your service. The military life is not one of ease.
I certainly do not wish Mr. Halbig bad fortune. It would certainly be a boon to America if he could uncover and expose the falacies
of Sandy Hook. But I can’t shake this feeling that there is more to his
sudden notoriety than meets the eye. He long tenure in Florida gives me pause. The Bushes own the state and it is in a constant condition of Disneyland illusion. Hope I’m wrong.
I have been reading and commenting on MHB since its earliest
inception. Only disagreed with Dr. Tracy on one issue. He has this wonderful way of expressing his ideas. As a wordsmith, myself, I find him readable and thought-provoking. On the other hand, I disagree with Dr. Fetzer on some issues–not on his knowledge of the issues we find so important here. Rather, those which lie outside the 9/11 or hoaxes’ area. Well, no one is 100% all the time. I will deal with it….
Thanks Marlilyn. I think Jim Fetzer and Mr. Halbig are our best bets to expose Sandy Hook once and for all. If we can get quick justice for Sandy Hook, which may lead to civil war, it will definitely correct the wrongs of 9-11, OKC, Waco and the rest.
Exposing Sandy Hook on a national level will bring down the credibility of the US government to the masses, and hence change will be quick. The punishments enacted for the players, and there are at least 10,000 of them if not more, will range from jail time to extremely harsh sentences.
The private prison industry will appreciate increased business. Personally I’d like to see them deported to a deserted island in shark infested waters. No mercy for traitors.
I agree, John. Fetzer, Halbig, Tracy, Smallstorm, and the rest of the their research team are our best bets for getting the truth out about Sandy Hook. I sincerely applaud their efforts, and appreciate the fact that they are staying on the story and continuing to move things forward.
And, yes, Anne, no mercy for traitors!
There is definitely something amiss with real estate transactions in SH. As we have speculated the gas pipeline going through was probably a massive payout to homeowners. Why not make the deal sweeter with the bonus of not paying capital gains taxes on your sale?
With that, the public information available without charge, may have been tweeked, to make it appear that zero dollar sales , could be standard practice, and therefore nothing to see here, move on, that number is not important with all the computer glitches and all.
In comparing this website, which appears to be a mirror of the state database, with zillow.com , many of the zero sales actually have values in zillow,con the same date. Reviewed the neighboring Charter Ridge, and while most have sale values, there are also zero values.
If I had the means, would go there and investigate with the town clerk and visually survey Yogananda and as it ends at Charter Ridge. 33 Y search results in 43 address, 35 and 36 [Lanza] do not agree with zillow history and 35 is in 36’s backyard. In the back woods of these homes, is an unknown address/building which appears to have pipelines and may be a pumping station.
45 Yoganada has a strange listing of 5 houses, with little information and no visual, but they were built in 1999, listed on 4/28/8 for $749,999 and removed from listing on 5/12/8. There is also another 45 Yogananda in zillow that appears to have a ‘nprmal’ sales history.
In a previous thread, we discussed an adjacent street leading to the river that had the same anomalies, as in google and zillow information was no longer available, follow the pipeline brave seeker of the truth!
So I think this was a drill and no one died, but I am having hard time understanding why they would use Jimmy Greene, the saxophonist for Harry Connick Jr. in this drill.
All the other parents are anonymous, so why would they use Jimmy Greene? What would he have to gain? Or did he do something very bad, and they are holding this against him?
They all have websites and are still soliciting money, but we are not clear why they still need money. Jimmy Greene is still milking the tit http://www.jimmygreene.com/a-special-message-from-jimmy-greene.html
I wonder if Wolfgang came across information about Richard Novia in his research?? You know, the guy who dated Nancy, mentored Adam and Ryan in the tech club, and was responsible for school security in Newtown and was fired for some undisclosed reason?? Last I heard, he relocated to Nashville, where flamingo tatooed Soto family champion Ryan Graney lives!! Look out Nashville, you might be hosting the next agenda 21 psyop!
Seriously though, if Mr Halbig doesn’t know about shadowy man Richard Novia, he should, they are in the same business, or were, Novia is now a P.I.