Both of you are smart people. I highly respect your views. But if you think Romney will take America in any other direction than if Obama is re-elected I believe your thoughts are wishful thinking.
In either case, both of them are the wrong candidates for America. While at this point, I am not certain Ron Paul is even any different, my view is in order for the American Republic to survive we must take a course of action very different from anything that is currently on the table.
Both the Democrat and Republican parties are private clubs or companies. There is no more any reason to accept their offerings as candidates than the Communist party, in fact I suspect there too is no difference. There is nothing in our Constitution that demands we following the manner in which the current situation is being mandated.
The Constitution places the people in charge. It is my position that we the people take the position to re-invent our election process if need be. For us to do less is unthinkable. But the first step is to demand more than what is being offered.
I didn’t say this would be easy but accepting the lesser of the evils has not worked for us either. At least now we have some idea of what is behind these charades; nothing but lies and deceit.
We have no legal government of the people. We have a corporation that was created unlawfully without the consent of the people; also without full disclosure. We then have a corporation through a serious of equally unlawful processes continue to perpetrate this criminal fraud on the people in a progressive manner knowing full well what they were doing. I add, that in my opinion, with malice and intent to do our nation harm.
Permitting these crimes to continue would be criminal on our part. Each of us to permit this to go forward implicates each of us to committing our own acts of treason against the Constitution, the Flag and the People of America. Can you honestly tell me you are prepared to turn your backs on over 237 years of tradition; even if we have been deliberately deceived? Once we know this has happened we are also duty-bound to end these violations of our Constitution…Of our system of laws.
Look…the problem is simple to understand for those having a hard time with this de facto concept. It is as if we hired folks to manage the affairs of the people. Over a long period of time, without our permission, without our knowledge, they gradually began changing the locks on all of the doors. They began to reroute all deposits to different bank accounts in their names. They changed the name on our store. They installed their own corporation under their own names. Very simply stated, they stole the people’s business and the house.
Then they changed the financial architecture to a system which used a monetary system that was so easy to manipulate, it could be done with a simple stroke of a pen. Computerization and the Internet now brought the global control of the various financial systems in such a coordinated manner they could easily meet at the G20 series of conferences and continue to control the world economy as easy as playing Monopoly. Only in this case, the play money was ours, the play money was that of the people of Greece, England, France, Germany and so forth. each time we passed go the members of this criminal conspiracy collected the $200; not us.
Don’t you see…Romney…Obama is a continuation of these practices and policies and in reality, our permitting this to go forward is essentially our agreement to live by these illegal and unlawful changes to our way of life.
And are you proposing to permit them to continue to run our business in this manner? Really?
In my view for what it is worth, Iceland has shown us the way. Yes, in our case, it will be much more difficult to accomplish but the model is there for We the People to inspect, and adopt. The template for We the People to end this tyrannical control over our society is right there for us to follow.
Consider, if you will, much of the unlawful acts began before any of us were even born. That was and is still the plan.
Just as we see the manner in which Agenda 21 is being implemented over generations, the new generation is born into an environment they believe is normal.
Remember the School systems curriculum are controlled by the federal government. By systematically removing much of the information about how our real government should function from the curriculum, Americans were gradually dumbed down by the very system upon which we depend it to educate us. How quaint! This was even extended to the college level of education. No wonder those who are so highly educated individuals also have no clue. This was all by design.
Again… I get it… how about you?
As we matured to a level of citizenship, without having any knowledge of the correct manner in which our government was supposed to perform, we made perfect targets to be deceived and manipulated.
The catch is, while new members were being elected to public office, and certainly many members of government were also totally ignorant to what has happened in the past 140 years, there are enough Americans who today, know the truth. Many of us, have attempted to educate our elected representatives. At this point, they can no longer say they didn’t know.
As a result, once they have become aware on the crimes that have occurred over the previous 140 years, based upon their fiduciary responsibilities to their respective constituents, they have a moral, ethical and intellectual obligation to fix the problem.
They have an obligation to honor their oath of office and to take corrective action and implement corrective measures to restore our lawful de jure government. A government that is empowered by the people and for the people. Anything less would be committing treason against the people of the United States.
And so you see my dear friends, this is not about accepting what the Republican party or the Democratic Party who are conspiring to keep the status quo and the deception going.
Granted, I am no legal expert, nor do I have any special education that would provide me with insight into understanding what has happened here. However, I have been blessed, befriended and educated by many dedicated American researchers who have spent most of their lives dialing in on this mess. From what I have concluded, it takes no special education or achievement of higher levels of education to understand such a deceptive and deviously divisive plan. One simply needs to review the writings of one Colonel House and compare that with what we see happening today.
Colonel Edward Mandell House
Colonel Edward Mandell House is attributed with giving a very detailed outline of the plans to be implemented to enslave the American people. He stated, in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson (President 1913 – 1921),
“Very soon, every American will be required to register their biological property (that’s you and your children) in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency.
Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the lawmerchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability.
After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call “Social Insurance.”
Without realizing it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation ( USA ) to foment this plot against America .”
-Colonel Edward Mandell House
if any of you can dispute this line of logic and facts that have been laid before you for your review, I urge you to do so. Otherwise, I suggest we get very busy and take immediate measures to mitigate the situation in which we find ourselves. In my view, accepting the status quo one more time is not an option.
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On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Karen S wrote:
Lynn (and Arnie) I TOTALLY agree with you Lynn – I have been engaged in many arguments over months (mostly with Paul supporters) who indicate they will hold tough and not vote rather than ‘settle’ – and there is simply NO good to come of such action. To not vote in support of Paul, and for principle, is to GIVE a win to Obama, plain and simple. There is no way this country can survive 4 more years of that beast and his goons – and while many may not like Romney (myself among them), I’d rather a coke can or monkey be elected than Obama. There are no principles that are going to save this nation from collapse – and what good will principles do as all principled individuals sit in detention centers, or are forced into slavery of one sort or another? IF people band together both for the election and AFTER – demanding and forcing those elected to do the right thing as opposed to hoping and assuming, then we can force change. But we have been doing decades and decades of wishful thinking and assuming those elected to represent us would do the right thing on our behalf – thus abdicating our responsibilities – did it work? HELL NO and it is not ever going to work. The running of this country is OUR responsibility and we can ill afford to sit out any election, or to stand down on principle if we are to ever get out of this mess. We are stuck with Romney short of some miracle at the convention, which is most unlikely. Now it is up to us all to hold the feet of each person to the fire of damnation if they do not do as they are told. That remains about our only hope, short of civil war.
From: Lynn & Judy DeSpain
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:03 AM
To: Arnie Rosner
Subject: Re: [Lawsters:12015] facebook on Romney
Your friend Joseph may be correct, but then again, what is left to us? Obama? Seems to be a non-choice. To not vote, just gives the election to Obama. Could this be the reasoning behind the, “facebook on Romney?”
I’ve witnessed the results of good people not voting to prove a point, and the results are always the same, manipulation from the opposing side. In effect, the actual one you do want replaced, remains, because ones you felt were correct for the job, were not nominated.
Both philosophy and history, if nothing else, have taught us, “given time, mankind will screw up anything good. Usually because of lack of personal interest by those who should be most involved.
Having not only received your letters and forwardings, but those of many others, decrying the wrongs and woes of everything, past, present and future, for the current situation our Republic finds itself in, I see but three solutions.
These come from careful consideration, and comparison.
FIRST OPTION:…Vote Obama out of Office. Rescind and remove any and all Presidential edicts and orders and Directives. Immediately begin tapping all of America’s own resources, and utilizing all the product of such as we can on our own soil, in manufacturing, building, supplying outside “Venture Building Supplies.” Create here what we have been, for generations now, buying from elsewhere.
This, one could call “Isolationism”, and in part, that would be true. I see it as a time of healing and regrouping our structure, and our standing, our power, in ranking in this World.
Rid ourselves of all “Green Ventures and Idealism”, and revert back to “Real Science.” If Michele Obama can fly herself out to Oregon State University, at the cost of 20,000 carbon tons, then just what is it we are doing with alcohol in our gasoline, aside from getting less milage, eating the gasket systems in our engines, and wasting eligible farm land in growing fuel corn?
Place a Moratorium on all monies leaving this Republic in the form of “Aid and assistance”, until our own Debt is paid, and our own recovery is secured.
SECOND OPTION…Allow to happen, what is apparently just a repetition of these past 200 years, with every New Congress and New Administration, stepping beyond the bounds of our Constitution, for whatever purpose, or agenda, whether humane reasoning or bad. Allow more Citizen’s rights to rule their own Republic to be taken away, by those we elect to represent us.
However, while all this remains in motion, we, the people, “Unite under the Law, that every Sheriff is the only duly elected representation of the Law, (with certain exceptions such as Missouri, which has no sheriffs), and have each State’s Sheriffs’ Association, call forth Grand Juries and submit Charges against all Current State Office Holders, for going beyond the boundaries set forth in their own State Constitutions.
While at the same time, the Sheriffs’ Association of the United States, calls forth Grand Juries, to bring forth charges against all Federal Office Holders, for going beyond the boundaries authorized to them under our Republic’s Constitution.
Relying on “Common Law” brought forth from England, and “Civil Law” brought forth from Rome, there lie within them means for the appointment of Judicial panels for the trying of these persons for “Treason and High Crimes.” This can be done without reverting to any military courts or tribunals.
THIRD AND FINAL OPTION…Call upon our “Declaration of Independence, as citizens, entitled, “We, the People”, and just substitute the proper names rep[lacing “King George”, to fit the same crimes against the “People”, and for the same reasons. Our Military, our Peace Officers, and our Citizens have all either taken an oath to uphold our Constitution, or “Pledged Allegiance to our Republic.”
And this final option, as with the preceding two, is a basic manner of “Honor.” Personal Honor, the only true possession any citizen of this Nation has, and without honor, there is no Freedom anyway.
So, in my own mind, and I do believe in many others, and with many more approaching the same conclusions, these are our options. There are no further needs to discover, and uncover, and lay bare, unjust deeds, and dishonorable acts, and illegal maneuverings. Is there. To continue, is to just to delay what is obviously the beginning.