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Dear Mr. Ginsburg,
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones. May the spirit of the season bring new meaning to your life. Permit me to thank you for this occasion to address the points you expressed below. I relish this opportunity.
In order to properly channel my response, it is important to understand from where you are coming. But first permit me to tell you a bit about us:
We are members of a very large nationwide coalition of patriotic citizens. We number in the millions. We are totally independent and non-partisan. We honor no party affiliation, nor any other organizations.
Our common bond and allegiance is to the ideals as expressed in our founding documents. We intend to make sure our founding documents are honored and respected by those we honor by placing them in elected office to expressly perform the work of the people. And we will also ensure anti-American elements of government are quickly shown the door.
We are representative in every state, county, district and precinct. We can not be corrupted! We are dedicated Americans! Dedicated to ensuring adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law. We will make every effort to expose and remove any legislator who fails to abide by their oath of office.
Giving credit where credit is due, I thank Mr. Obama for creating the environment so extreme and so UN-American in character, it awakened me to what turned out to be a growing concern. In fact, so I became so concerned that I have dedicated all of my waking hours over the last three years into researching exactly what was going on; to make a distinction here…not just what appeared to be going on, but rather, what was really going on. I continue to be amazed at the unprecedented level of deception and corruption at all levels of government. Your level included Mr. Ginsburg.
My first indication of trouble was when the DCCC began a campaign to discredit and attempt to coerce Rush Limbaugh into silence. Since you and Mr. Obama share the same party affiliation, and based on the Alinsky styled manipulative rhetoric in your message, it is obvious you are well aware the the process employed.
First introduced by Saul Alinsky, taught by Mr. Obama and on which Ms. Clinton did her thesis. The strategies, commonly named the Alinsky Rules for Radicals are quite remarkable and produce startling results. But then, Mr. Ginsburg, you knew that. if we examine the content of the remarks you made with respect to the material contained within Mr. Cantor’s editorial, or the messages I had sent all members of state government, it becomes apparent!
Oh, By-the-Way, perhaps you missed it, but Mr. Cantor, once being made aware of the misinformation, was quick to print a correction. A policy, routinely observed by responsible journalists.
Over the last 3 years, I have become aware of several websites which purport to verify the accuracy of information or rumors. Snopes is one. I just wanted to point that out because that’s one to which you referred as verification of your “poor me” the “victim” claims.
“They are routinely packed with venomous lies and poisonous fantasy. As only one example among far too many, here is a link to the actual story regarding President Obama and Sgt. Gregory Stube’s speaking engagement at the Catch-A-Dream Foundation’s Catch the Vision benefit event.”
There are other sites as well, which perform a similar type of disservice. “Fact check,” which is funded by Annenberg and also Snopes, which is routinely reported to have been funded by George Soros both interact to create the illusion that each individual organization provides a credible service. “Media Matters,” a new site funded by George Soros has just suddenly appeared on the web.
Now in this particular case, Snopes reported correctly. But this is not always the situation. In my opinion and based on my personal experience they appear to be influenced by the direction of a political wind.
This raises the question about the misinformation contained within the information on which Mr. Cantor, a well respected journalist, based his strong message. Since the story reflected behavior similarly exhibited by Mr. Obama, it was quite natural for Mr. Cantor to take the report seriously. I too, was taken in else I would not have passed on the story in an effort to provide educational support to a representative like you Mr. Ginsburg. This was part of a free service, provided at my expense, to provide legislators with more information that was generally ignored by the Obama administration’s censored media.
Well no wonder you would naturally not wish to receive information which might expose your efforts to possibly promote a seditious agenda. A United Nations sham titled Agenda 21. An agenda, perhaps to be instituted by administrative decree, without approval of Congress, without the consent of the governed, without their knowledge and under the radar of the watchful eyes and noses of your constituents.
- Agenda 21 Main Theme in Public Schools
- AGENDA 21: The UN’s diabolical plan comes to the San Francisco Bay Area
Is that what flicked your Bic, Mr. Ginsburg? That would surely explain a lot and certainly makes a lot of sense once we understand your political orientation. Now doesn’t it?
Now Mr. Ginsburg, are the following items meet the criteria of what you describe as “they are routinely packed with “venomous lies” and “poisonous fantasy?”
These are the most recent messages I have distributed to members of the state legislature in order to provide them with information not readily provided by the censored media. Let us permit those who read this exchange make their own determination as to the validity of your unfounded accusations.
If you were worried about the posts above, then this particular link should really cause you a lot of concern:
The above link is used to expose members of government as to who they really are. Not based on what they say…but based on what they do. Mr. Edward G. Griffin best describes this behavior as…. Sound familiar Mr. Ginsburg? For the whole story…
Many constituents speak very highly of this information.
Your behavior would seem to strangely mirror some of these folks in Congress…
people who no longer even make an effort to mask their intentions. UN-American? You betcha Mr. Ginsburg. You betcha!
Under the misrepresented banner of the Democrat Party, a very deceptive and clever part of the manner in which the Progressive movement advances its agenda is in what I can only describe as the “Stealth” mode. The Obama administration and supporters have intentionally blurred the lines. No longer does any clear distinction exists between the Democrat party and Communists (Progressives – Social Democrats).
The Communist party dominates the Democrat party. So to totally confuse issues as to being classified as political or legal issues it is virtually impossible for any legitimate charges to be filled against the perpetrators of criminal acts within government. Now isn’t that clever?
Law enforcement and the judiciary deny action on the basis of an issue being classified as “political;” in due course the item is differed to Congress. Congress is engaged in perpetrating a major conspiracy on the American public and the issue is ignored. This, in turn, denies all Americans due process.
Interestingly, we find the same deception being applied in the case of Islam. A form of totalitarian government masquerading as a religion. Indeed…a religion of peace which is committed to converting or killing all of mankind. Mr. Ginsburg…even you must admit there are quite remarkable parallels here.
Since I have no other way to determine your real motivation for associating with the Democrat party I will simply ask you to make a declaration. So here is where the truth comes in, Mr. Ginsburg… In my opinion here sir, there are only a few possibilities…care to provide us with an answer?
- You are totally Ignorant or clueless?
- You are a Communist?
- You are what Mr. Lenin described as a “Useful Idiot?”
Well if you are the least bit confused…perhaps you can seek advice from Mr. Gardner.
Permit me once more Mr. Ginsburg, to thank you for this opportunity to address your concerns. We are working on this for you. The views you have expressed that reveal your true political nature are being shared with many of your constituents. Ultimately they will make a determination as to your suitability to represent them.Arnie Available 24/7 – Defending freedom has become a full-time job! email@example.com 714-964-4056 714-501-8247 – mobile
On Dec 31, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Phil Ginsburg wrote:
Dear Mr. Rosner:
You (and a few of your followers, whom you sicced on me) appear to be offended by my request, through the invitation you so considerately provided, to be removed from your mailing list. If your feelings are likely to be hurt by such a request, I’d suggest you remove the Unsubscribe link from your messages.
I made the request, after many months of reading your messages, because they are routinely packed with venomous lies and poisonous fantasy. As only one example among far too many, here is a link to the actual story regarding President Obama and Sgt. Gregory Stube’s speaking engagement at the Catch-A-Dream Foundation’s Catch the Vision benefit event.
As you will see from the newspaper article and the note from Dr. Marty Brunson, Executive Director of the Catch-A-Dream Foundation, the screed by one Aaron Cantor that you forwarded contains a series of lies and libelous allegations about the circumstances surrounding Sgt. Stube’s appearance.
As for your assertion that any elected official has an obligation to receive or read communications from anyone who insists on sharing his fantasies and fabrications, like the rest of the material you send out that is an idea found nowhere in law, custom or the realm of reason. I pay attention to reasonable people who communicate in rational terms about important issues; you do not qualify for my attention by any of those criteria.
As for your claim to be my constituent, I have never seen your address on any of your communications, but unless you are a resident of Durham, Lee, or Madbury, New Hampshire, you are no constituent of mine. And I would never tell anyone, constituent or not, to get lost. I might, if they routinely bombarded me with with a steady stream of ignorant, vicious claptrap, ask politely to be removed from their e-mail list.
Rep. Phil Ginsburg
From: Arnie Rosner
To: Phil Ginsburg
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: REMOVE ME FROM FUTURE EMAILS
When you resign you will be removed from the role of an elected official. Then and only then are you free to tell a constituent to get lost.
I am sure this will also be comforting!
Reminder of your handiwork…you see Phil we know. we are no longer asleep!
Available 24/7 – Defending freedom has become a full-time job!
714-501-8247 – mobile
On Dec 29, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Phil Ginsburg wrote:
On 11/27/2011 11:53 PM, Arnie Rosner wrote:
REMOVE ME FROM FUTURE EMAILS